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【演講者及介紹】Ella Al-Shamahi

Ella Al-Shamahi古人類(lèi)學(xué)家，擅長(zhǎng)在不穩(wěn)定、敵對(duì)和有爭(zhēng)議的地區(qū)的洞穴中尋找化石。在她的業(yè)余時(shí)間，她是一個(gè)單口相聲演員。

【演講主題】科學(xué)家們沒(méi)有探索的迷人又危險(xiǎn)的地方

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翻譯者 Yu Xie 校對(duì)者 JingdanNiu

00：12

So I've got something that I'm slightlyembarrassed to admit to. At the age of 17, as a creationist, I decided to go touniversity to study evolution so that I could destroy it.

我有一些不太想承認(rèn)的尷尬的事情。在17歲的時(shí)候，作為一名發(fā)明家，我決定去大學(xué)學(xué)習(xí)進(jìn)化論，這樣我就可以毀滅掉它。

00：26

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

00：28

I failed. I failed so spectacularly thatI'm now an evolutionary biologist.

如你們所見(jiàn)，我失敗了。我失敗得徹徹底底，現(xiàn)在更是成為了一名進(jìn)化生物學(xué)家。

00:33

(Applause)

（掌聲）

00:36

So I'm a paleoanthropologist, I'm aNational Geographic Explorer specializing in fossil hunting in caves inunstable, hostile and disputed territories. And we all know that if I was a guyand not a girl, that wouldn't be a job description, that would be a pick-upline.

我現(xiàn)在是一名古人類(lèi)學(xué)研究者，也是一名國(guó)家地理探索者，專(zhuān)攻那些掩埋在山洞以及不穩(wěn)定、有爭(zhēng)議地區(qū)里的化石。我們都知道，如果我是一個(gè)男性而不是女性的話，以上內(nèi)容就不是一份職業(yè)簡(jiǎn)述，而是一種炫耀的談資。

00:52

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

00:54

Now, here's the thing. I do not have adeath wish. I'm not an adrenaline junkie. I just looked at a map.

有件事我需要澄清一下，我并沒(méi)有一顆冒險(xiǎn)的熱血之心。我并不是癡迷于腎上腺素。我只是會(huì)查看地圖。

01:02

See, frontline exploratory science does nothappen as much in politically unstable territories. Now I'm going to go out ona limb here and say that it is a tragedy if we're not doing frontlineexploratory science in a huge portion of the planet. And so science has ageography problem.

開(kāi)創(chuàng)性的探索科學(xué)并沒(méi)有那么多，尤其是在一個(gè)政局動(dòng)蕩的地區(qū)上。現(xiàn)在我正在這里一個(gè)分支上做著探索，并且認(rèn)為如果我們?cè)谌绱藦V袤的星球上沒(méi)有做任何前沿科學(xué)的探索，這絕對(duì)是一種悲劇。所以，對(duì)于學(xué)科的探索而言，地理因素成了一個(gè)問(wèn)題。

01:32

And so as an undergraduate, I wasrepeatedly told that humans, be they ourselves, homo sapiens, or earlierspecies, that we left Africa via the Sinai of Egypt.

當(dāng)我還是本科生的時(shí)候，我就被反復(fù)告知人類(lèi)、智人甚至是更早的人種，都是通過(guò)埃及的西奈半島離開(kāi)的非洲。

02:00

I'm English, as you can probably tell frommy accent, but I am actually of Arab heritage, and I always say that I'm very,very Arab on the outside. You know, I can really be passionate. Like,"You're amazing! I love you!" But on the inside, I'm really English,so everybody irritates me.

你們也許能從我的口音中聽(tīng)出我是英國(guó)人，但實(shí)際上，我的祖先來(lái)自阿拉伯，我總是不耐其煩地說(shuō)在外表上我真的很像阿拉伯人。我可以非常的熱情，比如，“你真棒！我愛(ài)死你了！”但是在內(nèi)里，我又十分像英國(guó)人，所以每個(gè)人都在令我煩躁。

02:15

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

02:20

It's true. And the thing is, my family areArab from Yemen, and I knew that that channel, Bab-el-Mandeb, is not that muchof a feat to cross. And I kept asking myself this really simple question: ifthe ancestors to New World monkeys could somehow cross the Atlantic Ocean, whycouldn't humans cross that tiny stretch of water? But the thing is, Yemen,compared to, let's say, Europe, was so understudied that it was something akinto near virgin territory. But that, along with its location, made the sheerpotential for discovery so exciting, and I had so many questions. When did wefirst start using Bab-el-Mandeb? But also, which species of human besidesourselves made it to Yemen? Might we find a species as yet unknown to science?And it turned out, I wasn't the only one who had noticed Yemen's potential.There was actually a few other academics out there. But sadly, due to politicalinstability, they moved out, and so I moved in. And I was looking for caves:caves because caves are the original prime real estate. But also because ifyou're looking for fossils in that kind of heat, your best bet for fossilpreservation is always going to be caves.

這些都是實(shí)話。事實(shí)上，我的家人是從也門(mén)到達(dá)的阿拉伯。我也知道那一條路，巴布-埃爾-阿姆德布, 并不是很難跨越的。我以前也總是在自問(wèn)一個(gè)很簡(jiǎn)單的問(wèn)題：如果新大陸猴子的祖先都能夠用某種方法穿越大西洋，那為什么人類(lèi)不能越過(guò)那一小段水？但問(wèn)題是，相比于歐洲，我們并沒(méi)有對(duì)也門(mén)做過(guò)充分的研究，也就相當(dāng)于這是一次對(duì)于處女地的探索。但是加上它的地理位置，這將是一場(chǎng)純粹的探索之旅，太令人激動(dòng)了，為此我內(nèi)心充滿了許多問(wèn)題。我們是什么時(shí)候第一次開(kāi)始使用巴布-埃爾-阿姆德布這一條路的？另外，除了我們之外，還有哪些人種去了也門(mén)？我們會(huì)找到還未發(fā)現(xiàn)的新人種嗎？并且最后證明了，我并不是唯一一個(gè)注意到也門(mén)研究潛力的人。還有其他的學(xué)者也在關(guān)注這個(gè)地區(qū)。但不幸的是，由于政局動(dòng)蕩，他們退出了研究，于是我進(jìn)去了。我在尋找洞穴，因?yàn)槎囱ㄊ亲钤嫉木幼〉?。而且如果?dāng)你在如此炎熱的天氣下去尋找化石，洞穴是化石出現(xiàn)概率最高的地方。

03:48

But then, Yemen took a really sad turn forthe worse, and just a few days before I was due to fly out to Yemen, the civilwar escalated into a regional conflict, the capital's airport was bombed andYemen became a no-fly zone.

但接著，就在我計(jì)劃飛去也門(mén)的前幾天，也門(mén)局勢(shì)急劇變?cè)?，?nèi)戰(zhàn)升級(jí)為地區(qū)沖突，首都機(jī)場(chǎng)被炸。

04:08

Now, my parents made this decision before Iwas born: that I would be born British. I had nothing to do with the bestdecision of my life. And now ... Now the lucky ones in my family have escaped,and the others, the others are being been bombed and send you WhatsApp messagesthat make you detest your very existence. This war's been going on for fouryears. It's been going on for over four years, and it has led to a humanitariancrisis. There is a famine there, a man-made famine. That's a man-made famine,so not a natural famine, an entirely man-made famine that the UN has warnedcould be the worst famine the world has seen in a hundred years. This war hasmade it clear to me more than ever that no place, no people deserve to get leftbehind.

我的父母在我未出生前便做出了一個(gè)決定：我必須在英國(guó)出生，成為一名英國(guó)人。這一個(gè)我一生中最好的決定，其實(shí)和我沒(méi)有太大關(guān)系。但是現(xiàn)在……我的家族中有幸存者逃了出來(lái)，而其他人就處在被隨時(shí)炸死的危境下，給你發(fā)來(lái)一條讓你對(duì)自己的存在感到厭惡的消息。這場(chǎng)戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)持續(xù)了4年，并將再持續(xù)四年，而且引出了人道主義危機(jī)。也門(mén)出現(xiàn)了饑荒，一場(chǎng)人為制造的饑荒。這是一場(chǎng)人為制造而非自然的饑荒，是一場(chǎng)完全由人類(lèi)制造的災(zāi)難，聯(lián)合國(guó)已經(jīng)發(fā)出警告，這場(chǎng)饑荒將可能成為近百年來(lái)最?lèi)毫拥囊淮?。而這場(chǎng)戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)讓我前所未有的看得清清楚楚，沒(méi)有任何一個(gè)地區(qū)、任何一個(gè)人應(yīng)該被遺忘。

05:13

And so I was joining these other teams, andI was forming new collaborations in other unstable places. But I was desperateto get back into Yemen, because for me, Yemen's really personal. And so I kepttrying to think of a project I could do in Yemen that would help highlight whatwas going on there. And every idea I had just kept failing, or it was just toohigh-risk, because let's be honest, most of Yemen is just too dangerous for aWestern team.

于是我加入了一些團(tuán)隊(duì)，并在一些不穩(wěn)定的地區(qū)組建了新的合作。但是我仍渴望回到也門(mén)，我對(duì)于也門(mén)有著非常強(qiáng)烈的個(gè)人情感。我一直在思考著能在也門(mén)做些什么，在思考一個(gè)能夠讓公眾知道也門(mén)的現(xiàn)狀的項(xiàng)目。我計(jì)劃了很多，但是總在失敗，有的是因?yàn)樘^(guò)于危險(xiǎn)。因?yàn)檎\(chéng)實(shí)地說(shuō)，對(duì)于一支西方的研究團(tuán)隊(duì)而言，也門(mén)基本上沒(méi)有一個(gè)安全的地方。

05:47

But then I was told that Socotra, a Yemeniisland, was safe once you got there. In fact, it turned out there was a fewlocal and international academics that were still working there. And that gotme really excited, because look at Socotra's proximity to Africa. And yet wehave no idea when humans arrived on that island. But Socotra, for those of youwho know it, well, let's just say you probably know it for a completelydifferent reason. You probably know it as the Galapagos of the Indian Ocean,because it is one of the most biodiverse places on this earth. But we were alsogetting information that this incredibly delicate environment and its peoplewere under threat because they were at the frontline of both Middle Easternpolitics and climate change. And it slowly dawned on me that Socotra was myYemen project.

但是突然，我被告知一個(gè)也門(mén)的島嶼，索科特拉島，只要你去了，就會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn)那里是安全的。后來(lái)我發(fā)現(xiàn)，在這座島上，有一些當(dāng)?shù)匾约皣?guó)際的研究機(jī)構(gòu)仍在工作。這讓我感到非常激動(dòng)，因?yàn)檎?qǐng)看一下，索科特拉島與非洲的距離有多近！那時(shí)我們對(duì)于人類(lèi)登陸那座島嶼的時(shí)間毫無(wú)頭緒。但是索科特拉島，你們中的一部分也許知道，但是是出于完全不同的原因。你們也許是通過(guò)印度洋加拉帕戈斯而知道的，也許是因?yàn)樽鳛榈厍蛏仙锒鄻有宰顝?fù)雜的地區(qū)之一而知道的它。但我們?cè)谠絹?lái)越多的信息中發(fā)現(xiàn)，這個(gè)地區(qū)以及生活在其中的人們實(shí)際上處于中東政局，以及氣候變化的危險(xiǎn)前線。這些認(rèn)知讓索科特拉島成為了我也門(mén)項(xiàng)目的研究重點(diǎn)。

06:52

And so I wanted to put together a hugemultidisciplinary team. We wanted to cross the archipelago on foot, camel anddhow boat to conduct a health check of this place. This has only been attemptedonce before, and it was in 1999. But the thing is, that is not an easy thing topull off. And so we desperately needed a recce, and for those of you who aren'tfamiliar with British English, a recce is like a scouting expedition. It's likea reconnaissance. And I often say that a really big expedition without a recceis a bit like a first date without a Facebook stalk.

因此，我想組建起一支龐大的多學(xué)科協(xié)作的團(tuán)隊(duì)。我們想通過(guò)步行、駱駝和獨(dú)桅帆船等方式穿越這些群島，對(duì)這個(gè)地方進(jìn)行完整的檢查。而這項(xiàng)舉措僅僅在1999年實(shí)行過(guò)一次。這并不是一件容易完成的事情。我們非常需要一個(gè)勘察報(bào)告，讓我先來(lái)為并不熟悉英式英語(yǔ)的觀眾們解釋一下，recce就像是探險(xiǎn)考察，或者說(shuō)是偵察。我認(rèn)為一個(gè)沒(méi)有偵察人員的大型考察跟第一次約會(huì)前沒(méi)有悄悄看過(guò)對(duì)方臉書(shū)一樣。

07:31

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

07:32

Like, it's doable, but is it wise?

也就是說(shuō)，這樣雖然是可以的，但是這是明智的嗎？

07:35

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

07:39

There's a few too many knowing laughs inthis room.

這些笑聲里夾雜著一些已然明了的聲音。

07:42

Anyway, so then our recce team thankfullywere no strangers to unstable places, which, let's be honest, is kind ofimportant because we were trying to get to a place between Yemen and Somalia,And after calling in what felt like a million favors, including to the deputygovernor, we finally found ourselves on the move, albeit on a wooden cementcargo ship sailing through pirate waters in the Indian Ocean with this as a toilet.

慶幸的是，我們的勘察部隊(duì)對(duì)于不安定的地區(qū)非常熟悉，老實(shí)說(shuō)，因?yàn)槲覀円诌_(dá)也門(mén)與索馬里亞中間的地區(qū)，這一點(diǎn)就凸現(xiàn)得尤為重要。在募集了包括副省長(zhǎng)在內(nèi)的一百萬(wàn)次援助后，我們終于踏上了探索之路，盡管用的是一艘穿行在印度洋海盜水域的，拿這個(gè)當(dāng)作廁所的用木頭鞏固過(guò)的貨船。

08:14

And also, I genuinely discovered that I amgenuinely less stressed by pirate waters than I am with a cockroach infestationthat was so intense that at one point I went belowdeck, and the floor was blackand it was moving.

并且，我發(fā)現(xiàn)在海盜水域中相比于我身處 的蟑螂成災(zāi)時(shí)候的，那種強(qiáng)烈的刺激，那種當(dāng)我在甲板下，地板又黑并且還在移動(dòng)的情況下，更加放松。

08:54

(Audience moans)

（觀眾驚訝惋惜的聲音）

09:32

So we were sailing on that cement cargoship for three days, and then we slowly started seeing land. And after threeyears of failing, I was finally seeing Yemen.

我們?cè)诖嫌趾叫辛巳?，才慢慢地看到了陸地。在?jīng)歷了三年的失敗，我終于真實(shí)地看到了也門(mén)。

09:46

And there is no feeling on earth like thatstart of an expedition. It's this moment where you jump out of a jeep or youlook up from a boat and you know that there's this possibility, it's small butit's still there, that you're about to find something that could add to orchange our knowledge of who we are and where we come from. There is no feelinglike it on earth, and it's a feeling that so many scientists have but rarely inpolitically unstable places. Because Western scientists are discouraged orall-out barred from working in unstable places.

開(kāi)始探索的心情是無(wú)法形容的。就像是你從吉普車(chē)上跳下來(lái)或者說(shuō)你從船上往上看的時(shí)候內(nèi)心中相信著有那么一種可能性，盡管渺小但是存在，你就要找到能夠增加甚至改變?nèi)藗儗?duì)于自我以及祖先的認(rèn)識(shí)的一些東西。這種心情無(wú)法比擬。很多科學(xué)家都有這樣的體驗(yàn)，但在政局動(dòng)蕩的地區(qū)中幾乎沒(méi)有。因?yàn)槲鞣娇茖W(xué)家不被鼓勵(lì)，甚至被禁止在不穩(wěn)定的地區(qū)進(jìn)行工作。

10:28

But here's the thing: scientists specializein the jungle. Scientists work in deep cave systems. Scientists attachthemselves to rockets and blow themselves into outer space. But apparently,working in an unstable place is deemed too high-risk. It is completelyarbitrary. Who here in this room wasn't brought up on adventure stories? And mostof our heroes were actually scientists and academics. Science was about goingout into the unknown. It was about truly global exploration, even if there wererisks. And so when did it become acceptable to make it difficult for science tohappen in unstable places?

但是，有一點(diǎn)需要注意的是：研究叢林的科學(xué)家，研究深洞穴的科學(xué)家，獻(xiàn)身于火箭以及載人火箭的科學(xué)家怎么辦呢？但顯然，在不穩(wěn)定的地區(qū)工作被認(rèn)為是高度危險(xiǎn)的。這是一種武斷的想法。在座的各位有誰(shuí)沒(méi)在各式各樣的冒險(xiǎn)故事中成長(zhǎng)的嗎？絕大多數(shù)的英雄其實(shí)都是科學(xué)家和學(xué)者?？茖W(xué)在于探索未知，在于全球性的探索，盡管危機(jī)重重。那從何時(shí)起這種科學(xué)不能在不穩(wěn)定地區(qū)開(kāi)展的觀念深入人心的呢？

11:17

And look, I'm not saying that all scientistsshould go off and start working in unstable places. This isn't some gung-hocall. But here's the thing: for those who have done the research, understandsecurity protocol and are trained, stop stopping those who want to. Plus, justbecause one part of a country is an active war zone doesn't mean the wholecountry is. I'm not saying we should go into active war zones. But IraqiKurdistan looks very different from Fallujah.

我并不是說(shuō)所有的科學(xué)家都應(yīng)該外出到危險(xiǎn)的地方進(jìn)行探索研究。這并不是什么狂熱的的號(hào)召。但事情是這樣：對(duì)于那些完成了自己的研究，并清楚安全規(guī)定，接受了專(zhuān)業(yè)訓(xùn)練的研究者，要讓他們停止去阻止想要參與研究的人。加上，一個(gè)國(guó)家的某些地區(qū)正處于戰(zhàn)時(shí)狀態(tài)，并不能代表整個(gè)國(guó)家的形勢(shì)。我并不是在提倡我們應(yīng)該進(jìn)入那些戰(zhàn)區(qū)。但是伊拉克庫(kù)迪斯坦的情況與費(fèi)盧杰的情況完全不同。

11:52

And actually, a few months after I couldn'tget into Yemen, another team adopted me. So Professor Graeme Barker's team wereactually working in Iraqi Kurdistan, and they were digging up Shanidar Cave.Now, Shanidar Cave a few decades earlier had unveiled a Neanderthal known asShanidar 1. Now, for a BBC/PBS TV series we actually brought Shanidar 1 tolife, and I want you guys to meet Ned, Ned the Neanderthal. Now here's thecoolest thing about Ned. See, it turned out that Ned was severely disabled. Hewas in fact so disabled that there is no way he could have survived without thehelp of other Neanderthals. And so this was proof that, at least for thispopulation of Neanderthals at this time, Neanderthals were like us, and theysometimes looked after those who couldn't look after themselves.

實(shí)際上，經(jīng)歷了好幾個(gè)月，我仍沒(méi)有進(jìn)入也門(mén)，而是另外一個(gè)團(tuán)隊(duì)接納了我。格雷姆·巴克教授的團(tuán)隊(duì)其實(shí)研究的是伊拉克庫(kù)迪斯坦地區(qū)，他們那時(shí)正在挖掘沙尼達(dá)爾的洞穴。在距今幾十年前，研究人員從沙尼達(dá)爾洞穴中發(fā)現(xiàn)了尼安德特人種，命名為沙尼達(dá)爾一號(hào)（Shanidar 1）。通過(guò)BBC/PBS的電視系列節(jié)目，我們才將沙尼達(dá)爾一號(hào)公布于眾在這里我想將這位尼安德特人，即內(nèi)德（Ned）介紹給你們。接下來(lái)是關(guān)于內(nèi)德最酷的一點(diǎn)。研究發(fā)現(xiàn)內(nèi)德其實(shí)受了重傷。如果沒(méi)有其他尼安德特人的幫助，他所受的傷則是致命的。而這一發(fā)現(xiàn)也就證明了，至少對(duì)于那個(gè)時(shí)期的尼安德特人，他們與現(xiàn)在的我們很像，他們會(huì)幫助那些沒(méi)有自理能力的同類(lèi)。

12:58

Ned's an Iraqi Neanderthal. So what elseare we missing? What incredible scientific discoveries are we not makingbecause we're not looking? And by the way, these places, they deservenarratives of hope, and science and exploration can be a part of that. In fact,I would argue that it can tangibly aid development, and these discoveriesbecome a huge source of local pride.

內(nèi)德是一名來(lái)自伊拉克的尼安德特人。那我們還漏了什么信息呢？有什么重要的科學(xué)發(fā)現(xiàn)因?yàn)槲覀儫o(wú)意尋找而錯(cuò)過(guò)呢？順便一提，這些地方是值得被賦予希望的，是值得被探索與研究的。其實(shí)我認(rèn)為對(duì)于這些地方的考查研究有助于當(dāng)?shù)氐陌l(fā)展，這些發(fā)現(xiàn)能夠成為當(dāng)?shù)刈院栏械脑慈?/p>

13:25

And that brings me to the second reason whyscience has a geography problem. See, we don't empower local academics, do we?Like, it's not lost on me that in my particular field of paleoanthropology westudy human origins, but we have so few diverse scientists. And the thing is,these places are full of students and academics who are desperate tocollaborate, and the truth is that for them, they have fewer security issuesthan us. I think we constantly forget that for them it's not a hostileenvironment; for them it's home. I'm telling you, research done in unstableplaces with local collaborators can lead to incredible discoveries, and that iswhat we are hoping upon hope to do in Socotra.

同時(shí)這一發(fā)現(xiàn)將我引向了第二個(gè)問(wèn)題：為什么科學(xué)具有地域性的問(wèn)題。實(shí)際上，我們并沒(méi)有參與當(dāng)?shù)氐难芯?。我并沒(méi)有忘記，在古人類(lèi)研究領(lǐng)域，我們研究人類(lèi)的起源，但是我們的科學(xué)家背景太單一。而這些地方充斥著大量的想要合作的學(xué)生和學(xué)者。并且事實(shí)是，對(duì)于他們來(lái)說(shuō)，他們會(huì)更少的考慮安全問(wèn)題。我們經(jīng)常忘記，對(duì)他們來(lái)說(shuō)，這不是一個(gè)充滿危險(xiǎn)的環(huán)境，對(duì)他們來(lái)說(shuō)，這里是家園。以我的經(jīng)驗(yàn)來(lái)說(shuō)，在不穩(wěn)定的地區(qū)里，當(dāng)?shù)貐f(xié)作者的參與往往會(huì)帶來(lái)更加重要的發(fā)現(xiàn)，而這正是我們希望在索科特拉島所做的事情。

14:24

They call Socotra the most alien-lookingplace on earth, and myself, Leon McCarron, Martin Edström and RhysThwaites-Jones could see why. I mean, look at this place. These places, they'renot hellholes, they're not write-offs, they're the future frontline of scienceand exploration. 90 percent of the reptiles on this island, 37 percent of theplant species exist here and nowhere else on earth,

他們將索科特拉島稱為地球上最像外星球的地方，而我自己、利昂·麥卡倫、馬丁·埃德斯特羅姆以及里斯·斯威茨-瓊斯知道其中緣由。大家看看這個(gè)地方。這些地方并不是荒蠻之地、也不是沒(méi)有價(jià)值的地方，它們是未來(lái)科學(xué)探索的前沿陣地。在這座島上90%的爬行動(dòng)物，以及37%的植物品種是地球上獨(dú)一無(wú)二的

15:01

And there's something else. People onSocotra, some of them still live in caves, and that is really exciting, becauseit means if a cave is prime real estate this century, maybe it was a fewthousand years ago. But we need the data to prove it, the fossils, the stonetools, and so our scouting team have teamed up with other scientists,anthropologists and storytellers, international as well as local, like AhmedAlarqbi, and we are desperate to shed a light on this place before it's toolate.

這里還有其他的東西。在索科特拉島居住的人們有一部分仍居住在洞穴，這一發(fā)現(xiàn)真的令人熱血澎湃，因?yàn)檫@些發(fā)現(xiàn)意味著，如果洞穴是這個(gè)世紀(jì)主要的居住地點(diǎn)，也許它早在幾千年前就是了。但是我們需要例如化石、石器等的數(shù)據(jù)去證明這一點(diǎn)，于是我們的偵察團(tuán)隊(duì)就像艾哈邁德·阿拉克比一樣，與其他來(lái)自國(guó)際和當(dāng)?shù)氐目茖W(xué)家、人類(lèi)學(xué)家、說(shuō)書(shū)人結(jié)成了一個(gè)團(tuán)隊(duì)，我們急切地想要在還沒(méi)有太遲之前為這個(gè)地方尋求一個(gè)突破口。

15:34

And now, now we just somehow need to getback for that really big expedition, because science, science has a geographyproblem.

而現(xiàn)在，我們需要做的是重新進(jìn)入這個(gè)大型的探索中。因?yàn)榭茖W(xué)，具有地域性的問(wèn)題。

15:45

You guys have been a really lovelyaudience. Thank you.

你們真是一群可愛(ài)的觀眾。謝謝聆聽(tīng)。

15:48

(Applause)

（鼓掌）