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今天的這段對話,在討論佛壇,
現(xiàn)在佛壇對日本佛教家庭來說有哪些用處
來聽今天的講解:
A: Now, Carla you have your own website.
卡拉,你擁有自己的網(wǎng)站。
B: Yes I, when I first came to Japan, I didn't learn languages because actually I'm quite terrible at learning languages. But I'm very interested in culture, and Japanese traditional culture is fantastic. So, little by little I got interested in butsudan. Now butsudan are Buddhist family alters which the Japanese use in two ways. They pray to Buddha by kneeling in front of them, but they also keep family memorabilia. That's like, wedding certificates, or graduation certificates, photographs, post cards from interesting places. They keep all these in the butsudan and they communicate with the ancestors this way. So they have a kind of dual purpose. And, but truthfully, I'm not particularly interested in Buddhism, and I'm not interested in the furnished butsudan because it's a little bit garish, and not at all the way I imagined the understatement of Japanese culture. But, the making of them is fantastic and the traditional old-fashioned ways of craftsmanship are going out because Japanese craftsmanship is very expensive. And it can be made in China, Vietnam, Taiwan, Korea much cheaper than they can be made in Japan. So, a lot of the traditional craftsman are just not finding the work anymore. No new apprentices are training for the job, and it's difficult to find butsudan that are made in a traditional way. The traditionally made butsudan could cost as much as twenty to thirty million yen. A butsudan made in China and imported into Japan and sold here could be, could sell for about three million yen. That just gives a ratio of the relative price. So, there is, there are three wood working crafts, two metal working crafts, and two lacquering crafts that go into the making of the butsudan. So, my aim really, is to document the traditional craftsmanship before it's completely gone. And no one has ever done this in English before. And it's hardly been done by the Japanese because it's one of these things that Japanese craftsman really don't talk about amongst themselves. So it's all kind of, it's not as if it's secret it's just that they have different vocabulary for the same thing. They do things in slightly different ways. They just never talk about it. When they train an apprentice they don't say do this do that the way we do in the West. The apprentice just has to watch the master and copy. So for many things they don't even have words for them. So it's been quite interesting to document that.
是的,我第一次來日本的時(shí)候并沒有學(xué)習(xí)語言,因?yàn)槲业恼Z言學(xué)習(xí)能力非常差。不過我對文化很感興趣,而日本傳統(tǒng)文化非常吸引人。我逐漸對佛壇產(chǎn)生了興趣。現(xiàn)在佛壇對日本佛教家庭來說有兩個(gè)用處。他們跪在佛祖面前祈禱,同樣那里也保存著家庭紀(jì)念品。比如結(jié)婚證書、畢業(yè)證書、照片或是風(fēng)景名勝的明信片等等。他們會(huì)把所有這些紀(jì)念品存放在佛壇,用這種方法和祖先交流。所以佛壇有這兩種用途。不過說實(shí)話,我對佛教不太感興趣,我對裝飾過的佛壇也不感興趣,因?yàn)槟怯行┻^分裝飾了,并不是我所想象的那種含蓄的日本文化。建造佛壇太不可思議了,不過傳統(tǒng)、古老的技藝即將消失,因?yàn)槿毡炯妓嚨幕ㄙM(fèi)非常高。在中國、越南、臺灣和韓國建造的花費(fèi)要比日本便宜的多。所以許多傳統(tǒng)工匠都找不到工作。沒有新學(xué)徒為這種工作進(jìn)行培訓(xùn),所以很難找到以傳統(tǒng)方法建造的佛壇。傳統(tǒng)佛壇要花費(fèi)兩三千萬日元。而在中國制造的佛壇,進(jìn)口到日本只需要三百萬日元。由此可以看到相對價(jià)格的對比。建造佛壇需要三種木制加工工藝、兩種加工工藝和兩種涂漆工藝。我想在傳統(tǒng)技藝失傳之前把它記錄下來。此前沒有英國人做過這件事。而且日本人也很難完成,因?yàn)檫@是日本工匠之間不會(huì)談?wù)摰氖虑橹?。并不是說這是秘密,只是因?yàn)樗麄儠?huì)用不同的詞匯來解釋同一件事。他們用略微有些不同的方法做同一件事。他們之間從來不會(huì)談?wù)?。他們在培?xùn)學(xué)徒時(shí),不會(huì)像西方那樣說“做這個(gè),做那個(gè)”。學(xué)徒只是照著師傅做的方法去模仿。所以有許多事他們甚至都沒有語言來形容。記錄這一過程非常有意思。
A: Well, sounds good. We'll have your URL on the bottom. And people will have to go and check out your website.
聽起來不錯(cuò)。我們會(huì)在下面放你的網(wǎng)址,這樣人們就可以訪問你的網(wǎng)站了。
B: Ya, that would be good. I'd like that. It's being made now, it's not quite finished yet.
那太好了。我喜歡。記錄工作目前正在進(jìn)行中,還沒有完成。
A: Oh ok.
好。
B: But, little by little it will be and if anybody is interested it's more of a resource than something that you would sit and read. But you might be interested in the drawings. A friend does the drawings, and I did the photos and the text, and you know it's quite ambitious I think.
不過我會(huì)完成這項(xiàng)工作,如果有人感興趣,相比于供人們閱讀的材料,它更像是一種資源。也許你會(huì)對繪畫感興趣。有個(gè)朋友會(huì)繪制圖畫,而我負(fù)責(zé)拍照和文字描述,你知道我認(rèn)為這真是野心之作。
A: Ok, well thanks.
好,謝謝你。